User talk:ScorpionTail

Welcome
Hi, welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the User blog:Gcheung28/Exclusive: Koike, Maruyama Speak page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! Sxerks (talk) 03:01, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

Collaborative Writing Project
I'm sorry, it does look like yours based on the history but I see that it could also be the last user's. Don't worry, either way you're not blocked from contributing.

Thanks for your interest!

Kate 03:10, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Character Bios
I'm sorry, the only contributions you can make are to the story, and in a linear fashion. Character bios were written by the Masters and not meant to be edited.

Thanks, Kate 00:06, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Contribute
Yeah, sure. I just posted a new paragraph. Pikapwn 02:23, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Work Together
I got your message. And I think we can work together. I was mainly thinking of the interaction between the Anarchist and the Girl. But don't think about a romantic pairing between a human and vampire/werewolf, that's way too cliché for my tastes (this isn't Twilight).--Zeromaro (talk) 02:40, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Me again, I was thinking of adding something about how a special protein in werewolves cause their transformations. It's something that vampires find irresistible which is why the CEO made the call to have werewolves hunted down and use it in Red Bat.--Zeromaro (talk) 03:07, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

That's exactly what I was going to do, which is why their brains keep getting scooped out, as the protein is located their, in that particular part of the brain. --ScorpionTail (talk) 03:09, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

i really like this idea that Werewolf blood is a Ingredient to the Red bat drink and that its addictive to vampires. if only the story could revolve around the Red bat drink and the Company that makes the drink and the characters that the master of animanga specified rather then people typing random things about a civil war in the United states and Nuclear wars. Promethius20 (talk) 18:01, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

That's the direction that I intended on going in. In fact, the storyline would've been much darker and more mature if I had managed to place emphasis on that idea without the focus changing. --ScorpionTail (talk) 18:14, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Idea Exchange
Sure, but I've got to go now. I did have an idea of Gabriel confusing Rose for the wolf murder. We can exchange more ideas whenever I can get online again.--Pikapwn (talk) 02:41, September 5, 2013 (UTC)Pikapwn

Hello. So I was thinking of two possibilities. This new Efriend character could be the Rival, since earlier he said he wanted to work with Gabriel to shut down Red Bat and the Vanarchists. OR Efriend could be an agent for the Vanarchists tricking Gabriel, and the Rival rushes in to stop him. Either way, the next paragraph would start out with Efriend telling Gabriel about the Civil War that's about to break out between the vampires and humans. What do you think? --Pikapwn (talk) 01:54, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Rose
Yes but she could've gotten kidnapped in a short period of time, I just wrote what i felt Caring16:) (talk) 00:06, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Shakespeare
Hey there,

I answered this in the talk page but you cannot use any other characters other than original creations or the ones that the Masters created for the story. I hope this answers your question.

Kate 16:17, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

RE:
Oh, thanks for the information.

Want me to recorrect the "Rival" part then?

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 19:25, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

OK, Scorpion, I've re-edited it.

Tell me what you think.

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 19:51, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Nayun was a name I came up with for the guy Gabriel gave his gun to.

I gave him a Israeli name, because in the end, after becoming friends with Gabriel and the rest of the crew, and seeing the death of his recently met friends, he commits suicide to meet with Zion.

Is that crazy enough or not?

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 20:03, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I just came here to contribute with my share to the story.

The other users will use my bit of text and interpret it as they want, and write the rest of the tale, so they can imagine what's gonna happen to Nayun.

Besides, Nayun is just as good a name as any other.

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 20:19, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you.

From time to time, I might come here to check on how the tale is developing.

Perhaps we could talk?

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 20:24, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Alright.

Later on, friend. :)

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 20:31, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

My Error
Sorry about the plot hole I accidentally wrote. I've been trying to keep track of the shifting back and forth between scenes and thought I was doing ok. Thanks for the correction.Ezvil (talk) 17:31, September 8, 2013 (UTC)Ezvil

No problem. --ScorpionTail (talk) 01:53, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Constructive Criticism
Hi, ScorpionTail.

I'm not a writer, just a fan of manga/anime, but I agree with what you wrote on the project talk, about writers working together better, rather than building a story on their own. You could, for instance, use a chatroom to discuss any major plot changes. As I understand, this is a first try writing a story this way, so problems are to be expected. Stefan (Shikai - &#34;Rust &#38; Shatter&#34;) (talk) 02:15, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Escape from the building
Do only Rose and Gabriel need to make the helipad? I was attempting to write the next paragraph about the team escaping to the helipad, and I was thinking of tying in the fact Sander and Niflheim are both injured and either one or the other sacrificing them-self to ensure the other makes it on time. However, if they were fighting outside the building, then this would not make much sense for them. Ezvil (talk) 17:38, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Edit: Nvm some1's already continued it.

Hi Scorpion Tail, Im new to this wikia, but a fan of Wikia in general. I have a folder in my bookmarks filled with them lol. But anyways I was browsing one and the Collab writing popped up in the corner. I read the Red Bat (Most of it) and just wanted to know if I could jump in or do i need to wait for another collab? --Hitman Renaissance (talk) 20:00, September 8, 2013 (UTC)Hitman Renaissance

We'll see. --ScorpionTail (talk) 20:10, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

(User:Sunami King)My whole post i just typed deleted so let me make this quick. I have no idea how to post exactly on here xD 2). I was going to delete the entry when i woke up today morning, but i woke up alte for school. Then at school I was going to delete it but my computer screen cracked and the aldy for 8th graders' computers was sick. SO came home from my tennis tournament at7 pm and they had a third new plotline xD! Sorry about that and Im posting this on you're talk and mine so if you'll tell me how to reply to talk messages that would be nice.

Oh and sure lets be friends Sunami King (talk) 23:40, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

My last addition
I was hesistant in my last post (making the vision of Julius a hallucination) so I wanted to check and see if you thought what I did was ok as far as plot goes. Im totally open to editing it or deleting it if there needs to be some changes. --Ezvil (talk) 00:30, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

The vision of Julius should definitely be an illusion. Make sure he lives. He is supposed to be the comic relief character. --ScorpionTail (talk) 00:36, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Gotcha that's what I was thinking and why I did it. U can't kill off comic relief --Ezvil (talk) 00:43, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, that's usually a steadfast rule. By the way, will the staff end the story for us if we can't do it ourselves? --ScorpionTail (talk) 00:52, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Im not sure, I'd hope so, Im thinking we really should end things hear (after deciding whether or not Sander lives. Then I think we officially end things). The ending has been shaky (a few posts in particular) but I think it's shaped out decent. and I think it helped flesh out a few of the characters a little (like I tried to make Julius more comedic). --Ezvil (talk) 02:44, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry. That last post is history. It had too many sentences in it and it broke the rules, so I got rid of it. --ScorpionTail (talk) 02:47, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Oh ok good. But yeh agreed we should try and convince everyone to try and wrap things up? --Ezvil (talk) 02:49, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Definitely. We now have an opportunity to end the story, and we shall take that opportunity. --ScorpionTail (talk) 02:51, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

My 2 entries have worked out for the overall story! woot Sunami King (talk) 11:19, September 11, 2013 (UTC)User:Sunami King

Yep nicely done Sunami. Ur last two posts were a great improvement. Also, it looks like we have a nice, clear-cut ending to the story now, which is fantastic.--Ezvil (talk) 14:55, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Good job, Sunami King. --ScorpionTail (talk) 15:33, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Are you being serious or joking? Cus it got deleted. I was hoping to end the series right there.... Oh well. Since I don;t know if you see this I'm posting this on my talk and your talk pages -- User:Sunami King

Story
I think the story's been great so far! We appreciate everyone's entries and hope that you found it interesting as well :)

Kate 20:12, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re: You're Fast!
Haha thanks! I just want to get this wiki cleaned up as quick as I can because lately I know it is being visited more and more. Rainbow Shifter 20:25, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

I want to know why my ending got deleted if it was so good? Also, can you give me a run down of the basics on Wikia. I'm only in eighth grade so I really have no idea xD. I found this wikia through the yugioh wikia when I was looking up rulings. I really enjoy writing and reading, so I was like meh why not. So I even skipped basketball practice at school to finish that ending. Also, does the latest post by zenomaro make sense? Wasn't Dragomir Lovinscue the CEO? User: Sunami King

Gee thanks guys! That makes me feel better. My mom caught me editing this and going through the wikia at 12 am last night and I'm really screwed over right now. I definitely will be working on T0A as much as I can and I will definitely try to make it crisp and clean. Posting this on my talk, you're talk (ezvil, and scorpion) and I'll definitely keep in touch. I can't access wikia from school, but could you email the the thing when it releases at 1pm EST for me. Ill email you guys back with what I have. I think we need more character develpoment in this one. And since I'll be here form the start. We can definitely work together. Scorpion and Ez you both seem to have some degree of authority in this wiki so I will definitely be seeking your help! When I amde my first post I read abotu who lerenzio was and who the other few guys were VERY briefly. I finished the first segment then jsut wrote that. Ill be up to date on this so it'll be much easier. Sunami King (talk) 20:47, September 12, 2013 (UTC)Sunami King User:Sunami King

Ask User:Scorpion Tail About what we discussed for the coming story - TOA: The search for Yin-Yang. User:Stefan (Shikai - "Rust & Shatter") is also part of this new project. Posted on all four of our talk apges to give y'all a heads up. -- User:Sunami King

Thanks
Hey, nice to meet you, thanks for liking my post, sorry I waited so long to reply.--MadMirrors (talk) 02:07, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

fan-art
Sorry I've been unable to find the fan-art you mentioned. Whereabouts is it located? (Anonymius (talk) 13:17, September 13, 2013 (UTC))

Final Warning
Hello,

Please do not create rules that contradict the rules that we have made for the stories. The rules are final and created with the intent to help all users, directly from the staff. I will be deleting your blog presently. In addition, the writing is meant to be collaborative and not dictated by a few members of the community, we want to make sure that it's open and welcoming to all users across Wikia, new or old. If you cannot adhere to these warnings, we will be temporarily blocking you from contributing to the next story.

Kate 16:55, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Dude
Sorry about your blog getting taken down. Personally I think it was unfair what happened, you were only trying to help. It's not like you were telling everyone "These are the new rules now and everyone should now obey them from now on!" (Anonymius (talk) 19:25, September 13, 2013 (UTC))

Yeh I personally think it was unjust. While I understand their reasoning, we were welcoming everyone to it and it would just be a way to make the story writing process more organized and hopefully make a more coherent plot (and also help make it easier for people so that they don't have to worry as much about getting posts deleted. --Ezvil (talk) 19:41, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about all of this. If I try something like that again, I'll get banned from ever contributing to the story again. --ScorpionTail (talk) 20:11, September 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello all,

I am sorry that you feel if my deleting of the post was unjust. I understand and see where you are coming from. I wasn't trying to imply that users were not being welcoming towards new contributors. My main concerns were that the story is meant to be collaborative- especially in the moment- we can't plan for contingencies or characters since not everyone has the same idea about the story. My other concern is that if the story were to be planned out in advance, not everyone who seems the blog would be on the same page. If you wanted to discuss in the talk page of the Animanga story, you would be more than welcome to do so. What we're trying to do is keep the communication fair towards all potential contributors and keep the story going in the spirit of collaboration.

Hope this helps,

Kate 21:28, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me, Kate. --ScorpionTail (talk) 21:30, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and one more thing. If someone were to make a bad post, is a staff member or another user supposed to take care of it or leave it be? --ScorpionTail (talk) 21:32, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

I got to introduce the Elemental Sage and Infernace as well as one of the legendary swords Kisara, and a new character and the Elemental champions of light

Tell MEEEEEE
What can't you understand? I was typing it like that cus the guy isn't supposed to know anything about what is happening.... Also which post(s) can you not understand? And can you provide an edited copy here....

That was gay, Khopesh was suppsoed to be evil, instead you made him good? So now I have to go and edit my post of him needing to be tackled User:Sunami King

Julia is the Witch, DuskNeos fucked the story, so i'm going to delete his post. Also, I modified my post and added a little bit to yours. I think that this story isnt going to be as good as REDBAT

Go ahead and delete it, I think this is a screwy animanga, unless someone is willing to make a shell account and delete all the previous posts, nothing's gunna happen User: Sunami king

Yh witch is Julia

Dude I think you tried to add a chra to soon in the story, and I see a few people doing that too. The way I saw you were writing is like your trying to steal focus form the main chras, and its to early sto be revailing a plot, and the story of those chras don't mix with what your trying to add in, I've seen stories like TAO its like a love thing with a little ecchi moments here an there, with some nice action and some romance.

You and everyone polluted the story, you've altered it too much. The story is only suppose to revolve around the witch and maiden, b/c you stuffed the story with too many chra too soon it changed the story and gave the witch and maiden smaller roles in their own story, there suppose to be goddess and witches not this elemental crap, also the story was suppose to stay related to Japanese culture but changed to Greek methodology. The story was so far goon from its original concept, I could barely make myself to read the story from start to what ever it is now, the beginning was good, but it concept changed to quickly to fast.

I kinda feel like im guilty of screwing things up too, my intention of adding Giota early was to try and avoid the cliche of 1 male protagonist and 2 females and the potential of the plot just becoming a harem. In addition I figured him being a monk would add a touch to the whole buddhist thing (although i dont know how Japanese it necessarily is). Im not huge on the elemental thing but hey it does kind of fit with the whole Maiden having multiple forms thing. I figure from here on we and the rest of the writers have 2 options: Make lemonade out of what we got or make life take the lemons back and give up. --Ezvil (talk) 23:04, September 14, 2013 (UTC)

Let's make lemonade out of lemons. I really want to make this story great. --ScorpionTail (talk) 23:09, September 14, 2013 (UTC)

Seriously, though. All we need to do is focus mostly on the hero, the witch, and the maiden, and have the other characters be minor ones. --ScorpionTail (talk) 23:14, September 14, 2013 (UTC)

TAO
Hi Scorpion

Please don't take this the wrong way, I don't mean to insult or offend you, but you are part of what I was trying to describe.

Within your first few contributions, you had already somewhat forcibly introduced a new character, Khopesh. In itself, that would be acceptable, but what was unfair was your implementation of "The Legion of Swords," a fiery witch, and a third character Hope. By doing this, you established a directive that no one else could possibly understand, because it comes from your mind. Because it is illegal to alter previous posts and therefore all contributions not in violation of the rules must be considered canon, you had made the story dependent on you and your contributions.

Furthermore, early subsequent posts you made served only to promote Khopesh until finally you used your "turn" to force every pre-established character to acknowledge him. That is unfair to contributors like Anonymius, Zeromaro, and others, who were very honestly working with the given characters and trying to organize and clarify their relationships. You may say that other characters were forcibly introduced as well, such as that monk character, and I'd agree with you. However, the monk character made a general, logical sense to the story. A tale of a Buddhist goddess and a witch is predisposed to have religious elements, such as religious people, most especially religious people from Eastern religions.

I totally understand this is a collaborative project and that conflicting insights are bound to happen. I also understand that everyone is entitled to their opinions on how they believe the story should go. But such a project expects and deserves a degree of altruism from its contributors. Everyone has the right to contribute any way they desire, yes, but it says in the rules that all people aiding the project must do so in a linear fashion. This means that story cuts, new characters, arising conflicts must be established based on suggestion from previous patrons. For example:

Contributor 1 - a dark figure hides in the shadows

Contributor 2 - the dark figure raises his hand and a fire comes forth

Contributor 3 - the dark figure says "I'll kill him, or my name isn't..."

Contributor 4 - "Wilbraham Aulus von Hohenwulf, Lord of the Flies"

and not

Contributor 1 - a dark figure hides in the shadows

Contributor 2 - the dark figure raises his hand and a fire comes forth

Contributor 3 - the dark figure says "I'll kill him, or my name isn't..."

Contributor 4 - A different dark figure leaps out of nowhere and kills the first dark figure in order to obtain his Soul Stone, a magical piece of the Soil of the One Dragon who alone can reopen the gates of Eden

Heavily exaggerated, but I think you understand my point. In later editions, the "new plot" smooths out somewhat but not before a significantly different direction has been taken. You and all contributors are at liberty to write as you please, I only ask that when you do you consider the integrity of THE story, not YOUR story and that other contributors whose own small time ideas for the story in general may now never get to bring them to life.

I apologize if I offended you or anything, and you are welcome to call out admins on me or whatever.

Jottie22 (talk) 13:27, September 15, 2013 (UTC)Jottie22

That's good to hear. I hope the story will be a success

Jottie22 (talk) 22:38, September 15, 2013 (UTC)Jottie22

Aww man! I actually read your post after mine on the story, and I actually wished I could continue it from there. Like, if I could have, I would mention how Mibu's mom knew Kirasaki, but I guess we'll have to wait and see someone else's interpretation on the whole subject. --VictoriousBeckFan (talk) 05:04, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. We can only hope that the next person has something awesome in store for it. --ScorpionTail (talk) 05:15, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Collaborative Writing Project
Hey there,

I have no intention of banning you unless you repeatedly break the rules. I appreciate your effort and enthusiasm regarding the project- my concern is that this is a truly collaborative effort and the opinions and contributions of all of the users is far more important than just one person's. If you can understand that and adhere to the rules, then you are more than welcome to participate. Please do not revert other people's edits, the staff are trying to do their best to monitor the writing and we will be making the final decisions regarding all contributions.

Kate 16:43, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

This whole fire elemental thing got fucked. I made Sean the Fire elemental hero of light, the person every1 thought was the fire elemental is no longer the fire elemental xD. User: Sunami King

Sure, what are your concerns?

Kate 23:48, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

I worry about random plot twists that might take too long to explain. Due to the deadline and the infrequent posts, it has me concerned that the ending might not be good enough. --ScorpionTail (talk) 23:52, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hey there,

Thanks for your concern, we are doing what we can do keep storylines together without destroying the integrity of user contributions. In projects like this, keep in mind that everyone has slightly different ideas of where stories will go, and as a result might often take it in an unexpected direction. I think that's fine as long as no one is violating the rules.

Kate 16:24, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Give me a 10-20 paragraph summary of whats goign on in the story. I really jsut hated how everything got fucked by dusk neos and zero + and people built on that, so i jsut went ahead and stopped reading. I was so happy for the project and now if eel sorryt for the rpoducer. Wanna keep ye up to date, and also I thought the fire elemental hero of light got screwed up because they were going to find the fire elemental hero of light right before they die, then the fire elemental saves them. tell me now, did they change Sean from the real fire elemental champion to something else?

Oh fuck I gotta read this shit now. But thanks. Ar eyou cool with Sean being the Elemental Champion of Light?

I amde the Champions so i can dow aht I want..... Lol the 5 elemental champions are called the Champions of light when they are together

Urumi
But, Scorpion, I actually HAVE been consistent with the story. I mentioned way back when that they were related(they were separated at birth in a different life), and Kirasaki was able to remember this. Plus, I wanted to try and add a spot where it appeared to have Kirasaki turn evil, and that was the only way I could think of without having him turn on them for no particular reason. -- VictoriousBeckFan (talk) 00:42, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Re: Stop That
Hi, ScorpionTail.

What do you mean by "read the whole story to the end"? The story hasn't been written yet, it's still a work in progress, and just because you think your story is better than mine doesn't make it so. I have put in a lot of work into the character Sean, and if you persist in hijacking characters, I'll express my opinion of this behaviour to an Admin. Stefan (Shikai - &#34;Rust &#38; Shatter&#34;) (talk) 04:08, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Why did you tell Ezvil that I omitted his post earlier? Spreading rumors and accusing me without any cause for suspicion is wrong, no matter how look at it, and I don't think much of that type of behaviour. Stefan (Shikai - &#34;Rust &#38; Shatter&#34;) (talk) 14:00, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Please Post
And post what? The story has been so confusing this time and so far away from the original intentions of the plot that I can't follow it at all. Rainbow Shifter 18:40, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Is what I posted okay? I hope I haven't messed everything up too much, just made sure Despair and Infernus get some sort of contact and Despair has been persuaded to go to Legion of Blades. Rainbow Shifter 18:56, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Seeming as only four of those sentences actually had more than three words I didn't think one word sentences mattered nor counted as sentences, but I changed it. Rainbow Shifter 18:59, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Video
Hey there, It's meant to be a recap of the three stories and their progression. We haven't started on the project yet but we'll definitely be posting it once it's finished.

Thanks, Kate 19:42, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

We're still working out the details, but we want to celebrate all the work that you guys did on the project and how this project came to be.

Kate 19:48, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

No worries at all, I'm excited that you are enthusiastic! All we want is to develop projects that engages the community, and I'm glad this is having that effect where our users can be creative and have fun :)

Kate 19:52, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

How is this, would you feel comfortable closing out the story tomorrow at 10 AM PST? Since you're one of the most active participants, it might be a good way to end the story as you're quite familiar with it.

Let me know if this works, <font color="Blue">Kate 21:53, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan. Thanks. --ScorpionTail (talk) 21:57, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, please be sure to close it at 10 AM PST

<font color="Blue">Kate 22:05, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Okay
It's fine, I really don't mind. --CenturyOfChaos (talk) 15:13, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

I completely understand. I suppose it's pretty cool that anyone who reads this has no idea where Despair ended up. --CenturyOfChaos (talk) 15:17, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I may be sending the wrong message here, what i'm trying to say is I really don't mind if that post stays deleted. --CenturyOfChaos (talk) 15:21, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Epilogue Possibilty?
Is there a possible way I could include Kirasaki to join the group? Like, according to the UTC time, there's still just a little bit of time left before it hits the next day on it, and I wanted Kirasaki to leave the training up to Eugene and Recon, while Kirasaki, now reverted back to a child - so as to prevent any other corruption - can join safely along with the main group. It can be quickly done, and then prevented from edits again. -- VictoriousBeckFan (talk) 22:15, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

The hatchet is buried
I'm cool with leaving it in the past, since it got blown out of proportion. I wish we'd settled thing sooner, but let's hope we don't crash into each other head first again. Good luck with the Samurai story. Stefan (Shikai - &#34;Rust &#38; Shatter&#34;) (talk) 23:21, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

A little confused here?
I wanted to submit something to one of the Collaborative Writing Projects but the way this site it set up has given me a case of whiplash. I'm fairly new to this site. Actually very new. I only created an account to participate in the Collab Writing. So I'm gonna ask you a blatant question: Am I allowed to submit something to the Collaborative Writing? I see your name on there all the time, so I am assuming you know what to do.

P.S- Sorry for bothering you! ;_; --PeachiKeen (talk) 03:14, September 24, 2013 (UTC)